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Ken Gordon's avatar

I find that symbol "uncomfortable" for the same reasons I find the red star and the so-called "star of David" "uncomfortable". All of those represent governments which were/are adamantly opposed to the real Catholic faith and Church. I most certainly sympathize with the German people with regard to their desire to be free from Bolshevism and from anything having to do with apostate-Israel. After all, my ethnic makeup includes a truly lovely, truly Catholic, very German grandmother. Even so, I am NOT in sympathy with any of those forms of government, all of which are "socialists" and are therefore, as one of the (real) Popes told us, inherently evil. Israel is an additional problem, of course. As St. Paul told us, "...they are the enemies of the entire world."

Mile High Bear's avatar

Great comment. Agreed. There are rarely any "good guys" in war, especially one which could have been so easily avoided, same as the Great War. Imagine royal cousins having a family argument, largely indifferent to the suffering and incomprehensible loss of lives on all sides. Truly a shameful tragedy for all involved.

Ken Gordon's avatar

Absolutely correct. WWI was totally and completely stupid and the dumbest of wars.

Mile High Bear's avatar

That symbol represents the sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of German patriots who prevented the entirety of Europe from being overrun by Bolshevism. It makes me feel sad that their profound sacrifice, love of their deity (Gott Mit Uns) and their people and their freedom will likely never be known or realized by the vast majority of Earth's population.

It also reminds me of the four seasons, ursa major circling polaris and Mangi, the sign for temples in Japan and Korea. Hope that contributes something to the experiment.

front wheels's avatar

My immediate, gut-level reaction to the swastika is "meh."

When I was a child, I had the visceral hatred of Hitler, the Nazis, and their symbology that was drilled into me by my elders, many of who fought in WWII. When I grew up, I put away those knee-jerk reactions.

I've read enough alternative history to no longer assume Hitler and the Nazis were evil incarnate, and even if the holocaust actually happened (which I don't believe), my reaction to that is also "meh."

NAB's avatar
May 3Edited

Indifference due to ignorance is the best way I can describe the feelings. Only knowing what school in the 90s provided as knowledge and Hollywood movies it has been a symbol that mostly confused me. Having forgotten most of what was taught except reading Night, watching the sound of music, rat race and swing kids, I never had uncomfortable feelings for it or support for it. Mostly ignorance. In the last 6 yrs I have viewed it as a national symbol misused by jews to program a way of thinking about Germany, and Germans in general, as Nazis war criminals in the most negative way possible. What I see it as now is a constellation, a symbol that a generation of a nation of people used to preserve their identity and pride in their country. I'm still pretty ignorant detail wise about the entire thing but I also know that there is no preservation of culture without blood and heinous acts of war. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer although I might sound like it but I don't blame them for wanting to protect their people, country & culture. Additionally, I refuse to believe that the entire country was Godless or anti-Christian. Seeing the rallies of Germans happily wear the symbol with pride leads me to believe that they were all very comfortable with national socialism and what it was supposed to mean for their sovereignty.

Elijah's avatar

It is very hard to overcome a century of lies and propaganda. I now truly believe everything we have been taught about our history of the last 150 years are lies propagated by Jewish forces. Nazi symbolism is becoming less and less a source of discomfort and more a symbol of missed opportunity.

Ken Gordon's avatar

Kurgan: I would value any comments you might care to make regarding the NovusOrdo and their latest tiff with the SSPX. Thanks.

The Kurgan's avatar

I’m afraid I know nothing about it as I don’t care or keep up with what Satanists do (Novus Orco) or Schrodinger’s “Catholics” do either.

Ken Gordon's avatar

Ha ha! Why am I NOT surprised? :-) Good on ya. And again God bless you and your lovely family. Later.

Tides of Truth's avatar

I saw this post too late to participate, but I'll answer:

POLL

Assume that by some magical and absolutely true means you realise that the Nazis were actually the good guys, that the entire history of WWII was a lie. No one else knows, but you know it is absolutely true. Even so, your reaction to the Swastika is: I would feel proud of what the Germans tried to do, in this case. That would be logical outcome. The Swastika, from my research, is an ancient symbol of many peoples, including the Japanese and native Americans. It has already achieved neutrality for me, in terms of emotion, but in this scenario, I'd be proud of the Germans for trying to defeat evil, and their symbol would evoke that.

Assume you realise MOST of the WWII history you have been told is a lie. The Germans had really been fighting for their own sovereignty and financial freedom, and the Holocaust was mostly (but not wholly) a fabrication, then your reaction to it is: In this case, it should not be banned. In the USA, it is already "not banned," but if I flew a nazi flag tomorrow, I can guarantee you my neighbors would report me to the police. Heck, last year the lesbians next door reported me for trying to raise chickens. In this scenario, I would not want it restored. National flags and symbols don't have a whole lot of resonance to me any longer, as I realize that I should be aligned with truth and God, and not governmets.

Nibmeister's avatar

It's a historical symbol of Germany during WWII and has no other significance for me. Anyone who flies that flag is either LARPing or a retard or both.

jerothb's avatar

I agree that WWII was based on lies, the Jews were mostly to blame, and muh six million is a complete fabrication. I still, however, do not like the swastika, and voted uncomfortable at each choice.

Why didn't mustache man rally under the cross? How much more sympathy would he have gained from Americans? Regardless of how much the Germans have been lied about, I still see the swastika as a twisted substitute for the cross. El Mustachio was being a hipster, trying to play the slick commie mass manipulation games, and I think it was an unforgivable blunder. After all, he did lose miserably.

I also do not think it was comparable to the stars and bars. That was simply a flag. The Nazi flag was a mass manipulation spell. The red, the circle; your mind almost can't help but see the windmill spinning like a hypnotist's prop.

DD's avatar

I voted on the second for truthful recognition and abstained from the first due to being "proud" about it - pride and its deadly sin ranking. I'm angry about the lie. As a Gen X ex prot, my entire belief structure was underpinned with lies. I'm thankful for what our host here has written throughout the years. Indeed, after reading your blog and books I'm finding symbols like the swast above as noise.

Since this post is about a symbol: The only two immediate symbols I back and stand behind effortlessly are these two, the second of which is on cap of my truck.

https://www.maltauncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/maltese-cross-knights-order-st-john.png

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pEcAAOSwXItb403l/s-l1200.webp

urielangeli's avatar

An Antichrist. A false messiah.

It should be no more and no less controversial than a MAGA hat.

But the Confederate Battle Flag should have the place of honor.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Listen faggot, I don’t give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks about me being or not being a Nazi. You are making stupid assumptions based on your low IQ. If you had bothered to read my blog at all you would know I am one the few people on this Earth that calls out the Jews at every turn, without hiding who I am, unlike you.

So that’s point number one.

Second, the qualifications were there precisely so retards like you self-exclude. I am doing a statistical analysis for a subject you’re clearly too dim to even imagine, never mind understand. And it worked beautifully since you self-exposed yourself precisely for the intellectual midget you are.

Third, the idea I care about how the rest of the world perceives me or not is absurdly laughable to literally anyone that knows me even remotely. Once more proving you are typing out of turn in abysmal ignorance.

Fourth, you quadruple down precisely on the point that you are too stupid to understand that seeking the truth from statistical analysis means you necessarily need to sort for the idiots. Thanks for self-excluding.

And lastly, I did forget to explain why I am not a Nazi or Fascist fan boy, but the very fact I forgot, also shows how much I care about your or anyone else’s view of it. Which is exactly zero. I simply provided parameters to sift for imbeciles and obviously it worked as intended.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Aaand he’s gone. This is not the place for retards to drool.

DD's avatar

Understand and agree with most of your points regarding offensive operations against evil.

I dont think G's 'purity' preamble is why G laid it out, and I'd like to hear his reply to this.