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The Kurgan's avatar

And in the latest bitch move he has blocked me from commenting on the thread. Surely the action of a man that has won the argument on the facts and has nothing further to prove. Yeah… not so much. And anyway I was just going to respond to a comment from KD, discourse with Texas Arcana guy was already at an end as it’s pointless to discuss anything with fantasists.

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Tides of Truth's avatar

Shoot, I chimed in. I guess you can't chime in back. Oh well.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Yup. And he did it because he’s getting ratioed by the commenters. Which proves my point. His comments on the crusades too show that not only is he retarded, but he’s not Christian in any sense of the word.

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Tides of Truth's avatar

Yikes. He deleted my two comments from that threat, and I wasn't even being harsh. What the!

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The Kurgan's avatar

It’s a talent I had since a very young age: exposing bullshitters.

It happens even faster face to face.

And fatty over there will probably die of heart attack soon anyway. Either from the stress of being exposed or the unhealthy crap he stuffs himself with.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

Kurgan, I agree that your average American right-winger is brain washed and ignorant, but I think that's true of the general population. People would rather look to over complicated political solutions than do the harder work of honest self examination, correction , and a deeper understanding of God's Truth, because facing your inadequacies and faults is scary and has real consequences. Anyway as St. Francis of Assisi said "if you want to reform society, reform yourself". Most people (American or otherwise), would rather have power lazily given to them, than submit to God's true magisterium.

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CK1's avatar

Brainwashed, ignorant, and fat.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

If your NOT American, your not allowed to criticize, I've been to other countries and believe me, when it comes to being fat, drunk, and stupid, they have NO REASON to criticize Americans.......

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The Kurgan's avatar

You’re not the thought police. And yes, by and large Americans are the most unhealthy and ignorant of the caucasian group. There are many similarities in the UK Australia and New Zealand of course, but in general the food in America is so much worse that the population can’t help but be less healthy.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

I'm not being the thought police, we are both Sedevacantist, do you appreciate outsiders criticizing us, no matter how justified? I'm sick of wussy, jealous Europeans who project their fears and frustrations on America and Americans. Without bothering to criticize the EU and Europeans. Once again, this is a humanity problem, Americans didn't corner the market on being douchebags.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Your masters definitely did corner that market. And they run the USA luke their gimp, infecting Europe with the same homoglobo malaise. If you are ignorant of these things then look them up. After WWii the USA implemented secret processes in the constitution of pretty much all of europe. In italy there are still parts we can’t see as citizens. USAID was a giant cash funnel to bribe, the NSA and CIA another giant funnel to blackmail and this control the various European “presidents”. So yeah… while the average American is relatively harmless, your entire nation may as well be the portal to hell from which all the homoglobo agenda spews onto the rest of the planet. And THAT is a fact. Your getting offended by it is irrelevant to reality.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

I don't need a history lesson about the evils perpetrated by my masonic government. I noticed that you don't address the substance of my replies relying on ad hominem attacks about Americans "being fat, ignorant, lazy, and brainwashed". I'm disappointed by this because you don't know me and you haven't even bothered to try to objectively interact with me. Just caricaturing me and my position.

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CK1's avatar

What I said is accurate, objectively and observably.

And I’m American who laughs at false criticism and acts on accurate feedback.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

I have no problems with my fellow Americans who criticize our supposed government and our fellow citizens. I've already stated by objections about butthurt gimps who can't be bothered to get their own houses in order, but want to project their fears and frustrations on to Americans.

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CK1's avatar

Well brother, I appreciate the Christian charity you show in this blog, as well in answering my questions from time to time. There IS a consistent theme of fear porn in Tex's writing.

And of course, it is a trait of females (of both genders) to be threatened by a man's hatred of lies, and smear him as a "hater".

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Jon Quixote's avatar

America throws it's weight around because it can, Russia and China do the same. My point is America and Americans don't corner the market on being stupid zombies; it's a HUMANITY thing. I'm not trying to be LIKED, but OBJECTIVE.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

In fairness to that guy, solid majorities of Western Europeans saying they’d vote for Kamala Harris if they could have voted in the U.S. election, including all major German parties except AfD and BSW at over 90% support(!), is not exactly a good look.

And while the U.S. may have a higher nonwhite percentage *right now*, Europe’s nonwhite population has a much, much higher future growth potential, especially with the current political class.

In the case of the Germanic countries in particular, including the British Isles, stick a fork in ‘em, they’re done. Italy is the least-bad country in all of Western Europe on various metrics. Meanwhile the Eastern Europeans are doing their best to be the neocons’ ultimate useful idiots.

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The Kurgan's avatar

I agree on the UK and Germanic countries, (as I said in my back and forth with Tex) especially at governmental level, but don’t believe what you see on the news about the EU any more than I believe what I see in the news about the USA. The average Euro believes in the government in general far less than the average American. Although the average Euro probably still believes the “news” more than the average American at a “social” level. But in practice they are far less likely to comply with various government edicts. I personally know many who under covid seemed to be all “for” the green pass etc etc that never took the jab or even got fake “papers” to “prove” they did.

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Tides of Truth's avatar

If you can at least see my reply to the thread on Tex's substack, great. If not, short form: there are areas of the USA with a lot more cohesion. They tend to be backwaters with very bad economies. Even in my backwater, they've tried to infiltrate. Literally. I had some kind of cabal agent visit my office, with a bunch of lies about what he was doing in town. Some strange foreign weirdo. He didn't move to town. He was checking me out. The name he gave me, which I still have in a photo of my white board, meant (according to my first web search), "Innovative domestic intelligence.). Strange times. Anyway, the backwaters of the USA have hope. The best outcome is for the nation to disintegrate into smaller nation states. I have little sympathy any longer with gung-ho, USA USA chanting patriots. The evil empire should die.

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The Kurgan's avatar

I tried to reply that you are not the first American to tell me that relationships in the USA are almost totally superficial and not deep at all. In fact, the Ice Spartan is having an extended stay in Europe as I think he dreads living in the USA.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

I’m convinced it’s due to unrelated people with no ties to the areas where they live being thrown together.

Trad Catholic congregations are similarly weak, because they consist of people or families that have basically nothing in common other than having figured out the truth independently.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Not sure what you mean by “Trad”. Sede people are the most loyal I have ever met.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

Oh, I agree. But it’s sort of a more intellectual, willful kind of connection that has to be built from scratch, quite different from the physical, instinctive, emotional connection that ethnic-based churches or Protestant congregations have, if that makes sense.

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B. E. Gordon's avatar

In regards to following rules, I wonder if that's a difference in mentality between Romance and Germanic people. When Americans run up against a stupid rule we tend to move heaven and earth to get a law passed, or failing that to find a legal workaround, rather than simply ignore it. Probably one reason there are so many lawyers here. Elite Democrats and their pet client groups ignore laws in the way you mention, of course, but they're allowed to.

BTW, I personally found your link to non una cum Masses to be indicative and interesting. The countries with a high concentration — namely, the USA, France, Italy, even Mexico — have hope, since the very fact there's that much demand for them suggests there's an even larger pool of people in those countries interested in the truth and fighting for it. Whereas countries with very few seem to be the more liberal or Marxist ones. I was a bit shocked to see so few in Canada, for example, and rolled my eyes at Germany, gay Spain/Portugal (highest monkeypox per capita in the world during that 2022 outbreak), and Poland (homeland of JP2).

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The Kurgan's avatar

Lawyers are lower on the totem pole than HIV positive crack whores in the vast majority of cases

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The Kurgan's avatar

And yes, Catholicism puts humans before laws. As did our Lord. Protestantism, being satanic does the opposite.

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Tides of Truth's avatar

N.B.: I checked out the original thread on Tex's site, and he'd removed all mention of the crusades, as well as not publishing my own comments on Europe vs. the USA in terms of community (I've traveled extensively in Scandinavia, where my grandparents come from). I don't like that sort of thing at all. I have many flaws, but I try to engage in honest debate, and to learn from it. Part of that means that you admit when you are wrong, or may be wrong, and also are eager to learn new information, even if it contradicts your deeply held views.

I've enjoyed Tex's stuff over the years, and he has/had an interesting perspective. It's possible he's been so messed up by the system, and messed with by, the system, that his faculties have been adversely affected. But then - we are all being messed with, so that's no excuse.

Pruning your comments in order to avoid being embarrassed, or to avoid a debate outcome you don't like, is not the kind of thing I admire.

Regardless, I hope that Tex can improve his health, mental, physical and spiritual.

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The Kurgan's avatar

I don’t wish ill on him but as far as I’m concerned he’s now just another lying NPC.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

In case you missed it, I'm a Sedevacantist too. My point is I don't like heretics coming to me to point out the REAL faults of Sedevacantists, because they aren't Sedevacantists. I don't like Europeans pointing out the flaws of Americans ( I don't like my government so I don't care about THAT) because they not Americans and people from other flawed countries shouldn't LECTURE me on the flaws of my countrymen, especially when those people live in glass houses themselves. My point is fix yourself and don't worry about everyone else. It appears we have a understanding problem. I'll drop it. I don't want to alienate you. I'll quit posting to your comments. Sorry, we can't reach an objective understanding.

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The Kurgan's avatar

What REAL faults are you even talking about with respect to sedevacantists, can you name one?

And thanks for pointing out it’s ALL about YOUR PRECIOUS EMOTIONS and absolutely NOTHING to do with logic or truth or reality. It makes ZERO difference who the truth comes from. The important thing is the truth, not who speaks it.

An objective understanding is not possible because you are being entirely subjective. There is nothing objective in anything you wrote. The VALID criticisms about Americans don’t become false, invalid or not real because they come from someone that’s not American and whose country has its own flaws.

And you also keep avoiding the FACT that America is globally far more responsible for the faults of MANY of those other countries than the countries themselves. Italy for example has over 150 US military bases in it. And is controlled by the USA politically since WW2. So… regardless of whatever problems Italians may have or cause, first of all, we would like to point out YOUR COUNTRY is the problem and should fuck off out of ours.

It’s not a hard concept to understand.

No rational American is offended by that. In fact most agree with us on it. You on the other hand get offended. It’s not a communication problem. It’s a you problem of basic emotional stability and comprehension. You operate on emotions instead of logic. Just like the other 99%.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

As a matter of fact I HAVE. I asked you directly as a fellow Sedevacantist how you would feel about outsiders giving criticism however valid. Secondly my larger point is that 99 present of the world is brainwashed, ignorant, lazy, and some cases fat, you and your followers got mad at me for defending my countrymen. Not because I sympathize with them,(they like your EU counterparts brought on themselves). Americans may be bastards but their MY bastards, and if you can't figure that out, it's unfortunate.

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The Kurgan's avatar

1. I don’t see how that is a point at all. All you’re doing is trying to equate two things that have nothing to do with each other:

A) criticism of an objectively true position that is logically and empirically verifiable (sedevacantism) against

B) criticism of an objectively bad and wrong society that is logically and empirically wrong (America)

The criticisms are absolutely different: invalid and demonstrably so in A and valid and demonstrably so in B.

Yours is not a “point” it’s a whine about your feelings, which you try and pretend I should share given an entirely different scenario in which if I did have feelings of outrage I would be justified while you are not.

2. But in any case, I don’t get outraged about criticism of my sede position, which is constant. I simply point out the logical errors in the other person’s flawed reasoning, often with rhetorical flair for effect but grounded in dialectic; which is why over 100 people that read me went sede, while no one that reads you decides that America is great if they didn’t start out that way.

3. Lastly, the fact that 99% of people are dumbasses doesn’t change the fact that overall Americans are MORE dumbasses than most and permit far more degeneracy in their lives than almost everyone else and also EXPORT it to the world. Again, these are the demonstrable facts. And the fact they share a nationality with you in NO WAY makes your defence of the indefensible FACTS any more valid.

TL;DR your emotions are not valid points.

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Eddy's avatar

Your right about the advantages Europe has over America. Americans keep bragging about freedom of speech, but in a country full of fools freedom of speech is irrelevant. Americans rarely have anything intelligent to say.

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CK1's avatar

G,

As a martial artist, what do you think about expounding some time on continuing your MA training while establishing a working farm that is free of Fiat currency slavery?

Apologies to go on tangent but this is also highly relevant to my activities.

BTW, the Mars book is fantastic.

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The Kurgan's avatar

I have so much to do on more practical efforts for my family that it doesn’t leave a lot of time for me. I am hopeful I will get back into some kind of routine training if just for my own health, but it will be a couple of months yet at least.

If you liked the book, please leave a review. Thanks.

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CK1's avatar

Totally understand. Hope you get back to it soon.

Still working my way through the book; will definitely post a review when I’m done.

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Sim1776's avatar

I've never fired a shot at someone although I have been shot at (utility work in the American ghetto for fun times). Mr. Kurgan, some of us will fight and defend our turf but it's going to be a regional/family thing. Tex plans on closing a door and disappearing.

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The Kurgan's avatar

I don’t disagree with this take. But that’s my point. As a regional/family thing your chances here are better than there. If your enemy turns out to be your own government you will be wiped out without hesitation. See Waco, ruby ridge etc etc. Here, one guy can hold off a small army before it gets to actual killing. And even then I’d rather have to go to war with a EU military than an American one. We are not as fractured at a human level that a military or police guy here will shoot with impunity on his own people.

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Sim1776's avatar

We are definitely a broken people.

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The Kurgan's avatar

Facing the truth is the first step to fixing a problem

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Jon Quixote's avatar

The world, (not just America) IS a broken place, because HUMANITY is broken .

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The Kurgan's avatar

Sure. But America is leading the charge (egged on by Israel and the diaspora of course)

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KD's avatar

Imho. Naming the foreign occupation and the zionist jewish stranglehold isreal has on America is relevant to fixing the problem. Americans unfortunately are too fixated on swallowing the boomer neocon kool aide to develop a distaste for it.

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Jon Quixote's avatar

In case I need to restart my original point, before Americans can fix their masonic government, (and fear, ignorance, and apathy are real problems for humans, nevermind Americans), Americans need to FIX THEMSELVES......

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KD's avatar

Thus the point of my comment.

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