In the early part of The Face On Mars, when you “did the math” on the construction of the Pyramids (number of blocks, weight of blocks, etc.), I was convinced then and there of the overall thesis. No way they were built by men in 20 years.
I know. It’s just a ridiculous idea. Any civil engineer (which is what I trained as) should be able to instantly have called bullshit on EVERY SINGLE THEORY that egyptologists have come up with to date. Especially anything at all that utter contemptible fraud of Zawi How-Ass ever said or ever will say.
I suspect you would find the book by Donald Patten, "The Long Day of Joshua..." to be of particular interest. The book is very hard to find. I have a copy here somewhere. I am, pretty much, in agreement with it. Amazon has a copy for $98.00.(!) BTW, I just bought your 2014 edition of "The Face on Mars".
Well, even a summary would be somewhat long. Would you like me to post it here, or would another place be more appropriate? I will happily do whatever you would require.
The book I mentioned "The Long Day of Joshua..." is an extension of
Patten's earlier book which I read in 2019 entitled, "Catastrophism and the
Old Testament"
In that book, Patten suggested that 1) in Old Testament days, the planet
Mars was in a highly eccentric, oblong orbit which permitted it to pass
(fly-by) very near to Earth at least twice a year, once in March on the
approach and a second time in October when leaving.
He suggests that the last such fly-by occurred in 701 BC during which time
an event he labels "The Mount Carmel Barbecue" (when Elijah took on the "priests" of Baal) took place. During this fly-by, Mars passed within only about 60,000 miles of Earth, its gravitational pull and possible magnetic field causing all sorts of distressing physical events on earth, such as "earth-tides", earthquakes. tsunamis, meteorite showers, etc. Like the moon, only much greater.
In that event, Mars lost enough energy to lose its eccentric orbit,
falling into its present almost circular orbit. It has never passed by
earth since.
Simultaneously, Earth gained energy and two things took place, 1) the
earth year increased from 360 to 365+ days (as recorded in many ancient documents), and 2) possibly its spin-speed increased reducing the length of the earth-day by some 5.5 hours.
The more recent book, "The Long Day of Joshua..." was written by Patten
with two collaborators. In this book, he/they attempt to show from modern
scientific evidence that the Martian fly-by was a certainty, and took
place every 108 years for many centuries. I find the book to be somewhat poorly organized, but it is interesting reading, to be sure.
The authors correlate myths of the Greeks, Phoenicians, Etruscans, Norse,
etc, with passages from the Old Testament which appear to show that
many of the ancient civilizations also recorded these almost catastrophic regular
Martian fly-bys.
The evidence he, and they, produce is very interesting, and seems to me to
be very probable, but, as you know, one Velekovski pretty much brought the
entire matter of catastrophism into a very bad light. Perhaps that was his
reason for doing it.
Even so, I do believe that you would find both books mentioned above to be
interesting reading. Donald Patten's earlier book is excellent reading. He
has a very enjoyable sense of humor and I got a lot of enjoyment from reading
it. I found his chapter, "The Mount Carmel Barbecue" to be especially
Thank you for the prayers, they are much appreciated. At first impact I find the mechanics of this proposed eccentric orbit to be ridiculously wrong and counter to Mars having had people on it, which I think is clear it did. But it would depend on the SOLID evidence. Sadly, myths etc can be “twisted” or “interpreted” to suit personal biases, and I have seen this ad nauseam when it comes to Mars.
I don’t have a position. I always thought they did exist but a recent long post by Agent 13 guy seemed to present a lot of evidence against them. I have seen a fossilised skull of a T-Rex in South Africa that you could touch and it seemed real enough to me, but I just don’t have the time to look into it properly. Nominally I still hold that they existed… because if nothing else, a world without them seems infinitely sadder to me.
I wrote about it in TFOM and my prediction there is on track. Hard to say exactly when even within a decade or so either side of the flip because no one knows the exact tipping point, but it will happen again. Potentially sooner than many would suspect.
Rich, you REALLY need to stop skim reading and then trying to be a smart boy (tm) with a sound byte without even bothering to read the relevant paper. If you had, you would have seen Corrado and Biondi state SAR itself is no good for penetrating beyond surface features. They used doppler tomography with it that does give precise results and they teated first on the pyramid itself and it gave accurate details of the internal structure. A similar if leas advanced seismic investigation was done by John Anthony West in the 90s that proved there was a chamber under the Sphinx.
Stop behaving like the classic gamma sperg smartboi(tm) and don’t type or speak stupid nonsense before you have bothered to actually educate yourself on a subject.
In the early part of The Face On Mars, when you “did the math” on the construction of the Pyramids (number of blocks, weight of blocks, etc.), I was convinced then and there of the overall thesis. No way they were built by men in 20 years.
I know. It’s just a ridiculous idea. Any civil engineer (which is what I trained as) should be able to instantly have called bullshit on EVERY SINGLE THEORY that egyptologists have come up with to date. Especially anything at all that utter contemptible fraud of Zawi How-Ass ever said or ever will say.
I suspect you would find the book by Donald Patten, "The Long Day of Joshua..." to be of particular interest. The book is very hard to find. I have a copy here somewhere. I am, pretty much, in agreement with it. Amazon has a copy for $98.00.(!) BTW, I just bought your 2014 edition of "The Face on Mars".
And thanks for the purchase.
Summary of the book you propose?
BTW, I believe that I do have your e-mail address.
Whatever you prefer. Here is fine. Or email, whatever suits you. But email may take me a while to get to.
OK. Here then.
Well, even a summary would be somewhat long. Would you like me to post it here, or would another place be more appropriate? I will happily do whatever you would require.
The book I mentioned "The Long Day of Joshua..." is an extension of
Patten's earlier book which I read in 2019 entitled, "Catastrophism and the
Old Testament"
In that book, Patten suggested that 1) in Old Testament days, the planet
Mars was in a highly eccentric, oblong orbit which permitted it to pass
(fly-by) very near to Earth at least twice a year, once in March on the
approach and a second time in October when leaving.
He suggests that the last such fly-by occurred in 701 BC during which time
an event he labels "The Mount Carmel Barbecue" (when Elijah took on the "priests" of Baal) took place. During this fly-by, Mars passed within only about 60,000 miles of Earth, its gravitational pull and possible magnetic field causing all sorts of distressing physical events on earth, such as "earth-tides", earthquakes. tsunamis, meteorite showers, etc. Like the moon, only much greater.
In that event, Mars lost enough energy to lose its eccentric orbit,
falling into its present almost circular orbit. It has never passed by
earth since.
Simultaneously, Earth gained energy and two things took place, 1) the
earth year increased from 360 to 365+ days (as recorded in many ancient documents), and 2) possibly its spin-speed increased reducing the length of the earth-day by some 5.5 hours.
The more recent book, "The Long Day of Joshua..." was written by Patten
with two collaborators. In this book, he/they attempt to show from modern
scientific evidence that the Martian fly-by was a certainty, and took
place every 108 years for many centuries. I find the book to be somewhat poorly organized, but it is interesting reading, to be sure.
The authors correlate myths of the Greeks, Phoenicians, Etruscans, Norse,
etc, with passages from the Old Testament which appear to show that
many of the ancient civilizations also recorded these almost catastrophic regular
Martian fly-bys.
The evidence he, and they, produce is very interesting, and seems to me to
be very probable, but, as you know, one Velekovski pretty much brought the
entire matter of catastrophism into a very bad light. Perhaps that was his
reason for doing it.
Even so, I do believe that you would find both books mentioned above to be
interesting reading. Donald Patten's earlier book is excellent reading. He
has a very enjoyable sense of humor and I got a lot of enjoyment from reading
it. I found his chapter, "The Mount Carmel Barbecue" to be especially
entertaining.
God bless. I am keeping you in my daily prayers.
Thank you for the prayers, they are much appreciated. At first impact I find the mechanics of this proposed eccentric orbit to be ridiculously wrong and counter to Mars having had people on it, which I think is clear it did. But it would depend on the SOLID evidence. Sadly, myths etc can be “twisted” or “interpreted” to suit personal biases, and I have seen this ad nauseam when it comes to Mars.
https://creationism.org/patten/PattenLDOJ/
The idea that God would design something as clunky and inelegant as a flat earth cracks me up.
Idk. Rob Skiba made a pretty good case way back when.
No one has EVER made a good case for the flat Earth. No one. And only retards who can’t do basic math or use their eyes think otherwise.
Perhaps this warrants an updated digital version of "The Face on Mars" :D
Sure… but y’all need to buy a few dozen books of mine every week so I can find the time to do it properly!
What’s your stance one the “dinosaurs never existed” arguments?
I don’t have a position. I always thought they did exist but a recent long post by Agent 13 guy seemed to present a lot of evidence against them. I have seen a fossilised skull of a T-Rex in South Africa that you could touch and it seemed real enough to me, but I just don’t have the time to look into it properly. Nominally I still hold that they existed… because if nothing else, a world without them seems infinitely sadder to me.
What's your opinion on the pole flip theory?
I wrote about it in TFOM and my prediction there is on track. Hard to say exactly when even within a decade or so either side of the flip because no one knows the exact tipping point, but it will happen again. Potentially sooner than many would suspect.
Thank you.
I'm curious as to why we are being drip fed these revelations, what is being built up to, what are we being distracted from.
All manner of truth. And sometimes a couple of us Italians get through the fog before they can stop us.
Love ya man, but "Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) tomography" is pure bafflegarble.
SAR is fantastic for mapping surface features. Implying any sort of ground penetration is fantasy.
Rich, you REALLY need to stop skim reading and then trying to be a smart boy (tm) with a sound byte without even bothering to read the relevant paper. If you had, you would have seen Corrado and Biondi state SAR itself is no good for penetrating beyond surface features. They used doppler tomography with it that does give precise results and they teated first on the pyramid itself and it gave accurate details of the internal structure. A similar if leas advanced seismic investigation was done by John Anthony West in the 90s that proved there was a chamber under the Sphinx.
Stop behaving like the classic gamma sperg smartboi(tm) and don’t type or speak stupid nonsense before you have bothered to actually educate yourself on a subject.
Please take your meds
Your stupidity and retard snark is noted. Now we all know you’re a moron. Thanks for that, saves us all time.
Banned for gammatude